Re~Stirred Forum

Very sad. Poor soul.

I think most people would have wanted the troubled young man to have been helped. The people that shouted at him to jump, should hope that they don't find themselves in a similar position, with only people like themselves around to listen to them.
very sad.

It's shocking that people would do such a thing. The police should identify some basis for charging people who do this.

Lets hope that's possible - truly sickening behaviour.

LiKW,

There are several criminal offences that could apply, from the lowest Breach of the Peace, through to Threatening Behaviour and maybe Public Nuisance. I doubt if anyone is even considering such retrospective action, although the Coroner may have something to say on this point - especially if some evidence is available. That would include those here who witnessed the behaviour contacting his office @ Newton Street and ideally some film - with audio.

One simple option is to add a comment here:http://www.rateyourlocalpolice.co.uk/aboutus.asp

A senior local police officer will normally quickly respond to entries.

Back to the incident. The police I expect will have focussed on the person at risk, managing the immediate area and traffic management. Such behaviour often comes when policing is conducted in the public domain. Perhaps WMP need to reflect on allowing the public to be within shouting distance? A point the Coroner may consider.

Sadly it isn't anything new, there are reports of such horrific behavior since at least 1964 and it often involves hundreds or even thousands of 'spectators'. I read a report where someone likened them to spectators at a public execution in a film.

your right Derogatory, I think I am right in saying that, David Bowie witnessed the same cruel behaviour of people shouting jump, to a troubled person. He was so shocked sickened and saddened , by what he witnessed he wrote a song about it. I can't remember if it was called "jump" or "the jumper". The point being if more people voice their disgust at such cruel hectoring towards people who are troubled, just maybe this behaviour will eventually stop.

I guess this is the one - Jump they say
Not his best song, though.

The reason I mentioned that paper above is that I instinctively I would have guessed this behavior is a modern phenomenon, perhaps reflecting people's desensitization from TV and video games or perhaps a breakdown in 'community' etc etc - but actually it's been reported for over 50 years and probably fits in to a much older, very dark, part of the human psyche.

Indeed Derogatory, it was though much less of an occurance, the "norm" was to applaude the person for accepting help , and praising the rescuers.
The worrying thing now is this "mob type hectoring" is happening more, people think it's clever, one big joke, This growing trend needs to be stopped . I know it's not Bowie's best but he gets the point accros with , people taking photo's , and his fake injuries.
Artists have to be careful though that their work isn't misinterpreted, as was John Lennons "happiness is a warm gun".

the most sick thing about this the number of photo's appearing with the poor guy lying on the floor.

Unfortunately this is the second such incident today in the city and it will be far from the last all over the country.

I am shocked to read your post Barnardhobbit, so soon after the death of the 17 year old, your original post referred to.
How awful to have witnessed this tragedy, how very sad for the 33 year old man.
B'ham must as you said Barnardhobbit, look into enclosing the gaps in multi story buildings/car parks and bridges, surely people cannot put an arguement forward against the idea?
I don't have any answers but it looks very much like some people are not getting the help they need , what does that say about us ? as a "big society"?
Oh my just listening to " A Working Class Hero" -John Lennon .
Think I had better watch an uplifting film -now!

Prevention is always better than cure. The loss of any life is a tragedy, if that life could have continued without mental and physical pain that made the life unbearable.

Without the reasons for this person having made the decision to end their life rather than go on, any comment on it would be conjecture. I sincerely hope they have found peace and that those that they have left behind find comfort quickly.

I have sympathy for those that saw the incident and those that had to respond to it and hope that they are not left with stress or shock.

The sadness of our poorly funded and inadequate mental health service provision is something that needs to be changed.

I couldn't /wouldn't look at above link, I do believe people would take photo's , My choice is not to view them.
I feel for his relatives and friends when photo's such as the poor man dying are taken for well- almost entertainment.
It's all so sad and bloody depressing, seems some people in society haven't changed (mentally) since public executions, -the nearer you were the better the view.

I do think that the layout at the Bull Ring is quite unsuitable. ItIt

Thankfully they didn't hit anybody walking below.

sorry Barnardhobbit , I don't mean to exasperate you, I did think surely the bham mail wouldn't print photo's sent from mobiles of the unfortunate man, I didn't want to take the chance.
I don't need photo's to know what happened. oops clicked on wrong quote ,, should have been the quote where you tell me the bham mail didnt show the photo's.

surely BCC must look into the health and safety aspects of moat lane car park ?
I am not suggesting that there is a sinister reason, re-people falling from the higher levels of moat lane car park. I do think it is now time to enclose each level, putting more bars across or security type criss cross metal netting? maybe better lighting, and monitoring.
my thoughts are with the poor woman who fell to her death yesterday. condolences to her family and friends.

not a lot you can do really ... and this is horrible ... as a baby was involved

the desperation will only get worse

I saw a report a chinese women and her baby, was that wrong ?