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 Post subject: Regeneration of Moseley Road
PostPosted: 23 May 2012, 15:51 
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One of the first tasks for the new Planning Committee will be asked to decide on Thursday the planning application for 332-346 Moseley Road
SEE Committee Report 2012/02416/PA these Circa 183O-40 Grade II Listed Georgian Villas have sat derrick and unused for several decades.

Situated on the Moseley Road at the Junction of Highgate Road and opposite the new Joseph Chamberlain College.

The Moseley Road runs from Bradford Street through Highgate and Balsall Heath until it meets Alcester Road at the
Moseley B13 border and is just over a mile long

It has in total of 26 listed building in its short length although the 110 year old Friends’ Institute is very strangely is not one of them

This must make the Moseley Road one of the most listed and historical in the city

The city council and private landlords have let many of these buildings decay and there has been continuing problems with
many of the listed historical buildings down its length.

The buildings under threat include the

Balsall Heath Library
Moseley Road Baths
The Old Moseley Art School
The Old Tram Deport
The Friends Institute

Plus many other derelict historical buildings down its length

SEE Moseley Road Preservation Facebook Group

The applicants Jenny and Rob McCabe who I have have set up a CIC company and plan to restore 332-346 Moseley Road to their former glory.

Initially the Joseph Chamberlain College has an option to rent the restored buildings for evening and adult classes in a later
Phase two the unlisted buildings to the rear will be developed to create a shared community resource that combines learning
and performance, training and enterprise and will be known as the 'Balsall Heath Hub'.


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 Post subject: Re: Regeneration of Moseley Road
PostPosted: 23 May 2012, 16:20 
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It would be great to see these buildings restored, I often pass them and wish I had the money to buy them.


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 Post subject: Re: Regeneration of Moseley Road
PostPosted: 23 May 2012, 16:35 
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Yes, great buildings that need to be maintained and restored and put to good use. There are many similar buildings around Handsworth that need the same.

Is it just me, though, or does the over-use of names such as 'hub' grate a little? I have a feeling such names mean a lot to policy makers, politicians and activists etc but not so much to people who live bang next door to them.


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 Post subject: Re: Regeneration of Moseley Road
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Great news about those fine buildings. I am also concerned about the earlier Georgian buildings flanking the park further towards Bradford street, many are in a terrible state.


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 Post subject: Re: Regeneration of Moseley Road
PostPosted: 23 May 2012, 19:27 
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Beefheart wrote:
Great news about those fine buildings. I am also concerned about the earlier Georgian buildings flanking the park further towards Bradford street, many are in a terrible state.

I know the ones you mean. Wasn't one of them being used as a squat and was then severely damaged in a fire. I think this was covered by Nicky Getgood Digbeth is Good. That row have excellent potential, but a joined-up approach to the regeneration of that area is needed to be effective.

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PostPosted: 23 May 2012, 20:00 
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Dominator wrote:
Beefheart wrote:
Great news about those fine buildings. I am also concerned about the earlier Georgian buildings flanking the park further towards Bradford street, many are in a terrible state.

I know the ones you mean. Wasn't one of them being used as a squat and was then severely damaged in a fire. I think this was covered by Nicky Getgood Digbeth is Good. That row have excellent potential, but a joined-up approach to the regeneration of that area is needed to be effective.


Yes that's correct and I agree we need this approach Dom, but sooner we do any the better !!!


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 Post subject: Re: Regeneration of Moseley Road
PostPosted: 23 May 2012, 20:48 
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Dominator wrote:
Beefheart wrote:
Great news about those fine buildings. I am also concerned about the earlier Georgian buildings flanking the park further towards Bradford street, many are in a terrible state.
I know the ones you mean. Wasn't one of them being used as a squat and was then severely damaged in a fire. I think this was covered by Nicky Getgood Digbeth is Good. That row have excellent potential, but a joined-up approach to the regeneration of that area is needed to be effective.
Not wishing to blow by own trumpet I think you will find that I covered the subject first on the Stirrer (Unable to Link Now)

The story was taken up by Nicky (Who has now moved to Wales) and both of us was photographed outside by the Birmingham Post.

The fire which in which two Polish Squatters died has now changed hands and work is in progress to repair them although very slowly.


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 Post subject: Re: Regeneration of Moseley Road
PostPosted: 23 May 2012, 23:31 
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Good to read link to the positive planning officer's report. This is a good example of appropriate conservation balanced with finally finding a viable use for these important Regency buildings- unfortunately rare in our city (Regency buildings that is).


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 Post subject: Re: Regeneration of Moseley Road
PostPosted: 24 May 2012, 00:21 
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why can't people live in them? there is a housing shortage, I just wish all buildings such as these could be once again lived in by a family, rather than more "projects or hubs" which may once again run out of funding, yes preserve heritage,the baths,, moseley art school, (which my nephew attended), it would be nice to see houses lived in again and rented out by the council.
Guess i would bi in the minority thinking like this?

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 Post subject: Re: Regeneration of Moseley Road
PostPosted: 24 May 2012, 02:17 
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Well, Sally, I agree with you. It wouldn't have to be the council letting them out - it could be the council, I guess, or perhaps housing cooperatives, or private landlords, or RSLs. I certainly agree with the principle that houses suit people living in them, rather than, as you say, projects that have a limited lifespan generally, and add nothing to an area outside of working/ office/ opening hours.


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 Post subject: Re: Regeneration of Moseley Road
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I would just add that any progress is welcome, however, so thumbs up, as it were, to this intiative as it currently stands.


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 Post subject: Re: Regeneration of Moseley Road
PostPosted: 24 May 2012, 12:51 
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There is no way these 180 year old Grade II houses could or would be used for Social Housing.

The buildings are so derelict inside with no floors or stairs and with a new roof required and due to their listed status
would need several millions spent on them before they can be brought back into use.

They have not been used for housing for a hundred years but as offices.

Councils and Housing Associations just do not create Housing that cost hundreds of thousands per unit to supply and then charge a Social Rent.


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 Post subject: Re: Regeneration of Moseley Road
PostPosted: 24 May 2012, 13:13 
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The last poster clearly knows more about these properties than I do, and as I know nothing about them, except visually as a passer-by, that's not difficult.

My point was a general one - and included the possibility of the private sector letting them as homes to live in.

I was also trying to make another point, about project buildings, whether in renovated regency housing or not, adding little to an area in terms of its general quality of life. Handsworth is full of grand old buildings that have been used for various projects, but the projects die off sooner or later. And then what? I would argue that streets lined with empty or even occupied 'project' properties does little for the general perception of an area.

Incidentally, I'm pretty sure that various RSLs have been involved with the improvement of rather fine, previously abandoned Georgian housing in parts of Liverpool.

Anyway, thumbs up to any improvement, as I said before.


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 Post subject: Re: Regeneration of Moseley Road
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I have had an email from the applicants who have informed me that the application has been approved today.

To return to the Housing issue this Regeneration of the Grade II Listed Georgian Villas is Phase One of the project.

Behind the Villas there is a large factory unit of no historical value and the development to demolition and new build
on this large site will be Phase Two.

I understand that talks are taking place with a local Housing Association who are interesting in taking space there for
either their offices or providing hostel accommodation for people with special needs.

So while the Listed Georgian Villas will be used by the Joseph Chamberlain College for mature students the whole site will
also have some important social uses that could include a Community Café, Social Enterprise development for start up
businesses or community units, a Crèche and Nursery with a playground and some Social Housing.

I wish this development well and being a local resident I believe this will help in the regeneration of this area of Birmingham.

The next problem for these Social Developers is finding the funding and finances to start the work required.

SEE Moseley Road Preservation Group on Facebook.


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 Post subject: Re: Regeneration of Moseley Road
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Tremendous stuff!

This is the kind of stuff that the city needs, as opposed to the obsessive focus on the center, which is fine, but which also generally genreally neglects the rest of the city.

Now, time to extend this kind of intitiative to other parts of the city with grand housing in a state of neglect - Handsworth being a prime example.


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